Hey, this is my 4th pair of shoes. The last pair we're komodos I think. Wore them every day, Kung Fu training, climbing trees, running the woods, every day commuting. And after only 8 years the soles are bout ripped off,holes in the toes. And a hole in the left heel that let's rocks in my shoe. What gives?! The replacement pair, v train, golds gym edition. Almost didn't buy these from comments about the sole lacking feel cause the sole is too hard and not flexible. I don't find this a problem. May become more flexible once they break in. As they are, they ain't bad. These shoes are tough and hopefully as durable as my last pair. I like these shoes a lot. Great fit. A little more snug than the komodos. I did notice, due to the harder sole,they tend to be a bit slippery on smooth slimy floors. (I wind up in all kinda places) Do away with the laces, I'm lazy and impatient. Make the hook and loop strap longer. I have trouble getting the laces under the strap and having enough strap to catch on my swollen right foot cause I jumped off the house and landed wrong. Should quit this. Heck I'm. 60. I really like these shoes a lot the traction is phenomenal! Buy time will tell the v train has big shoes to fill. The komodos were tough. I hope to wear the v trains as long before I destroy them! Thanks for a great shoe.